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 Springchicken
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 Deck Swabber
  Posted 08/10/2008 10:23:05 PM
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Hi all
Had a chat with my boatshed manager today regarding repairs required to my '22'. I need a new seal fitted as existing one is perished and letting in water. Have previously mentioned this on other topic and suggestion was £2-300 for work to be done. £900 for labour alone is the estimate plus parts !!. Not much I can do about this other than have another drink.  On top of this news, I was asked if the gear change was working ok. It's an electric shift (magnets employed) requiring the neutral button to be pressed prior to pressing the forward/reverse buttons when a change of direction is required. I was told that parts are not available for this system due to it's age. I am now a worried man as I have a boat which could be rendered useless if this system fails. Does anyone else have this set-up fitted or can someone advise me of parts availability if and when required ?.
Cheers

John
 brianlj
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 brianlj
  Posted 09/10/2008 11:37:04 AM
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Crikey!  That seems a lot for a seal repair.  I'd've thought that these things were made to be accessible?!

We have a shaft drive (and a cable-driven gearchange) so I don't know what's involved at all, but, if I were you, I'd ask around on other forums for other types of boat who use the same sort of seal arrangement.

Gosh! smile/eek.gif

'Nimue' is our Birchwood 25 berthed at Tiptree on the River Great Ouse. - http://www.nimue.co.uk
 Stuart H
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 Able Seaman
  Posted 09/10/2008 11:59:40 AM
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"If in doubt ask about" sorry but I dont know about your problem but I am always a bit cynical about boat yard engineers they have it a bit too easy in my opinion, £900.00 for labour! How many hours is that? Trouble is you are stuck and they know it.
As Brian says do as much investigating as you can yourself, maybe it is a big job.

 No Regrets
 admin
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  Posted 09/10/2008 06:57:39 PM
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I paid £300 for a new 'Log' and that included the part, and aligning the engine.

It has not leaked a drop since fitting, and hasn't been touched all season.

If yours is an outdrive, it may be different....

'No Regrets' is now a beautiful Broom 30, berthed in Bray, on the River Thames. I used to own a Birchwood, honest!
 Springchicken
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 Deck Swabber
  Posted 09/10/2008 09:59:50 PM
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Hi

Yes, got me by the short & curlies so to speak. To shop around would involve me getting the boat trailored to another yard with all the hassle involved. Four days labour equala £900 apparently. The work involves removing the leg, fitting the seal and re assembling, which, although I am no fitter, seems a long time to take over such a job. No takers on the electric shifter then ?

Cheers

John
 No Regrets
 admin
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  Posted 10/10/2008 01:33:29 PM
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Never seen one....

Four days to remove a Leg???

WTF  smile/mad.gif

'No Regrets' is now a beautiful Broom 30, berthed in Bray, on the River Thames. I used to own a Birchwood, honest!
 Jimbo
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  Posted 10/10/2008 05:19:20 PM
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As previously mentioned the quote seem way over the top. Try getting on to Fairline Holiday Club web site. They cater for Fairline cruisers who seen to have a variety of different propulsion motors/ drives. Tony, the administrator, is also a first class engineer and has a wealth of knowledge. I am sure that he would be aware  of such a drive system.

 brianlj
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 brianlj
  Posted 13/10/2008 11:16:40 AM
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"£900 for labour alone is the estimate plus parts !!. Not much I can do about this other than have another drink.

How about scouting around for a touring mechanic?  Our marina doesn't have a resident mechanic, however... a local chap has just left an established boatyard to set up his own business and he tours the local marinas doing work on boats.

Is there someone like that in your area?

'Nimue' is our Birchwood 25 berthed at Tiptree on the River Great Ouse. - http://www.nimue.co.uk
 Springchicken
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 Deck Swabber
  Posted 15/10/2008 09:07:34 AM
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Hi Brian
It's a rule of the marina that no work is carried out other than general maintenance/cleaning etc. They've pretty much ensured that if serious work is to be done, they'll be getting the job. Although the marina is in a beautiful setting with good facilities, i'll be seriously considering alternatives come renewal in Spring.

John
 brianlj
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 brianlj
  Posted 15/10/2008 09:49:22 AM
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And if it does end up with you having to pay £900 for 4 days work, I would spend all of those 4 days watching the mechanic.  That way, you can (a) learn how to do it yourself next time and (b) check that it does indeed take 4 days.

By the way, which marina is this?

'Nimue' is our Birchwood 25 berthed at Tiptree on the River Great Ouse. - http://www.nimue.co.uk
 Springchicken
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 Deck Swabber
  Posted 16/10/2008 00:28:38 AM
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Brian
Good idea, if I can spare the time. Waveney River Centre is the place, Norfolk Broads.

John
 brianlj
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 brianlj
  Posted 16/10/2008 08:50:18 AM
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"Waveney River Centre"


Looking at it in Microsoft's Virtual Earth... Very nice.  Lots of trees though.  Oh, are they permanent chalets down to the south-west or are they holiday lets?

'Nimue' is our Birchwood 25 berthed at Tiptree on the River Great Ouse. - http://www.nimue.co.uk
 Springchicken
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 Deck Swabber
  Posted 16/10/2008 10:39:03 AM
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They are privately owned but let out. Not sure what general rates are but as an 'occupant', I can hire for £200 pw, very useful if your boat is out of the water as mine is !!. The trees are more apparent from up above though they're not really noticable on the ground. I'm in the dyke which can really test one's skills when the tide is strong. What really amazes me about the place is that it is accessed via of a few miles of very narrow roads. It's amazing what they've achieved in such a place.

John
 brianlj
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 brianlj
  Posted 16/10/2008 02:44:56 PM
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I have to say that it does look very nice.  

'Nimue' is our Birchwood 25 berthed at Tiptree on the River Great Ouse. - http://www.nimue.co.uk

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